In a candid discussion on the “Katie Miller Podcast,” billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk described his experience leading the Department of Government Efficiency as “somewhat successful,” stating he would not pursue a similar role again. Musk, who is also the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX and owner of the social media platform X, reflected on the challenges of rapidly reforming federal government systems and acknowledged the toll his involvement with the agency took on his businesses.
Musk’s comments came during a friendly interview with Katie Miller, a conservative influencer and former aide who worked as a spokesperson for DOGE, the agency Musk led before it officially closed last month. While Musk defended the agency’s initial goals and its contributions, he expressed regret over the time and resources diverted from his primary ventures.
Insights on Government Efficiency
When pressed by Miller about whether he would embark on a similar initiative again, Musk responded, “I don’t think so. Instead of doing DOGE, I would have, basically, built … worked on my companies.” He added, “They wouldn’t have been burning the cars,” referring to protests against Tesla vehicles that arose during his time with the agency.
Despite his misgivings, Musk did highlight some achievements of DOGE, estimating it saved the federal government as much as $200 billion annually by addressing inefficiencies known as “zombie payments.” These payments, he explained, could be minimized through improved automation and coding in federal payout systems. Musk’s earlier assertions had suggested that the efficiency commission could measure savings in the trillions, underscoring a stark contrast between expectations and outcomes.
Musk’s reflections come at a time when his business ventures are experiencing significant growth. Recently, Tesla shareholders approved a lucrative pay package that could position Musk to become the world’s first trillionaire.
Discussion Beyond DOGE
Throughout the over 50-minute conversation, Musk and Miller discussed various topics, including artificial intelligence, social media dynamics, conspiracy theories, and even fashion. The podcast marks a notable moment for Miller, who transitioned from government service to work alongside Musk in the private sector.
The dialogue took place in a casual setting, with both figures seated and facing each other, allowing for an engaging exchange. While the conversation touched on many issues, the intricacies of DOGE’s operations and its controversial impact on federal agencies were not extensively explored.
Musk’s comments provide a glimpse into the complexities of government reform and the personal costs associated with such endeavors. As he continues to lead influential companies, his experience with DOGE serves as a reminder of the challenges in balancing innovation with the realities of large bureaucracies.
